Outlook for 2010

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Outlook for 2010

Postby muhaha » Tue Jul 13, 2010 3:21 pm

Seems like we are in a long sideways market for years to come as we work through the excessive debt , higher taxes and sluggish growth. This is becoming more of a traders market.
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Re: Outlook for 2010

Postby J. Pathe » Tue Jul 13, 2010 6:27 pm

Well here is a five year crystal ball forecast by Mike Evans from boutique wealth advisory Evans & Partners.

http://my.eurekareport.com.au/rp//801/p ... CE76ECC169

Some actual makes sense!

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Re: Outlook for 2010

Postby benthonic » Tue Jul 13, 2010 6:50 pm

and the Secular Forum from Pimco

read more http://www.pimco.com/LeftNav/PIMCO+Spot ... -Erian.htm

U.S.: Gradual deleveraging and financial rehabilitation to occur in the context of lower medium-term growth, greater regulation, deteriorated public finances and an eventual inflationary bias down the road;
U.K.: Also stuck in a world of lower growth and poor public finances, but with greater vulnerability to domestic and external financial instability;
EU: Deflationary bias and growing core/peripheral frictions and tensions;
Japan: A constantly encumbered real economy due to demographics and public finances; and
EM: A bifurcated world, with key economies (including China) maintaining their development breakout phase.

On growth, we stressed the prospects for considerable differentiation among regions and countries. Specifically:
- We expect systemically important emerging economies to maintain their development breakout phase, including a gradual broadening of the engines for income and employment creation. Yes, there are issues and risks in each country… but overall, this historic transition is manageable and we are a couple of secular horizons away from these economies constituting more than half of the global economy.
- Over the next few years, Australia and Canada will constitute the analytical battleground as elements of the new normal come head-to-head with those of the old normal. Our sense is that the two countries’ exposure to the dynamic components of global growth – through direct trade links with Asia and the commodity angle – will likely outweigh the drag from the legacy of household leverage (Australia) and the economic links to the U.S. (Canada).
- The same cannot be said of Europe and Japan. The former is in the midst of a fiscal deflationary drag, with vital questions multiplying about the very makeup of the eurozone and its supporting institutions over the longer term. The latter will face increasing demographic and debt headwinds that will inevitably drain even further the already weakened drivers of sustainable growth. In all this, both will discover what many others have before them—the politics of austerity are far from straightforward.
- The picture for the U.S. (and the U.K.) is more mixed, especially when compared with other regions. The country retains its position as one of the most dynamic and entrepreneurial economies in the world, with a proven ability to adapt and re-invent itself. Its corporate sector (and, especially, the large companies) has lowered its cost structure, increased cash cushions and termed out debt. It is still the provider of global public goods, including the world’s reserve currency. And, with the help of policy measures, its banks have undergone a meaningful balance sheet rehabilitation.
- At the same time, however, the U.S. faces large and mounting structural headwinds. The country’s public finances have taken a serious turn for the worse that will not be corrected anytime soon. Private sector credit creation remains hampered and the banking system will become more utility-like. Meanwhile, the household sector is still burdened by excessive debt, suggesting that further deleveraging lies ahead. Unemployment is high and will likely remain so for the foreseeable future, accentuating concerns about skill erosion and loss of labor market flexibility....

((( Also from Pimco, a phrase they are proud to popularise: the New Normal is one of muted growth overall, a protracted need for balance sheet rehabilitation, accelerated migration of growth and wealth dynamics to systemically important emerging economies and relatively weak global governance. It is also one of notable government involvement in the context of convergence among systemically important countries toward, for lack of a better term, state capitalism.

In industrial countries, this involves the public sector playing a larger role in defining the (reduced) areas where markets operate relatively freely. In emerging economies, it involves the government providing more freedom to market forces within the (growing) areas it defines.)))
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Re: Outlook for 2010

Postby Disco Stu » Thu Jul 15, 2010 11:42 pm

Well apparently for the first time since April 2009 bear forecasts now outnumber bullish forecasts - given that this was one month after the actual low I might take a contrarian view and say S&P1250 by early Dec10! :)

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-07-1 ... il-09.html

Of course I reserve the right to change my mind and sell all assunder!! :P
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Re: Outlook for 2010

Postby muhaha » Fri Jul 23, 2010 8:52 am

Markets - down two days up one day. Are we going to see a direction anytime soon.
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Re: Outlook for 2010

Postby benthonic » Fri Jul 23, 2010 9:03 am

mu - what we are seeing is volatility in times of uncertainty, nervousness reacting to every bit of news. & this is the reality, .... with the nostalgic low volatility of years gone by the aberration, in all likelihood.

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Outlook for 2010 (and beyond) - A selection of "Trade of the (New) Decade" from 'The 5-Minute Forecast" : Agora Financials forum now taking place at Vancouver. This is a collection of views from some uber-bears and their allies.


John Mauldin - Buy emerging markets, sell sovereign debt...but not now. Treasuries are going to go lower in the short term
Andrew Lowenthal - John is 100% right: Rolling over US debt is going to be so much easier than what people think...it's too early to short Treasuries
Eric Kraus - Buy resource producers in places where people are afraid to invest. Short finance sectors of developed countries
Barry Ritholtz - Short the euro, long stocks in 2016, when the next bull market begins
Byron King - Sell the euro: It's doomed, just a question of time. Buy crude oil. There's just not enough of it. I'm long the Tea Party, too
Doug Casey - I'm inclined to own a lot of gold, cattle and agricultural land...keep it simple. I would short the euro, yen and US stock market
Gary Gibson - I own nothing. If I had anything, I would have dollars now, uranium later. Buy energy.
Eric Fry - Short euro, long uranium
Porter Stansberry - There are just too many good shorts. Short Treasuries, especially in US and Italy. Buy gold, silver, timber and super-high-quality blue chips when they yield 10% or more
Chris Mayer - Short the state of California and Illinois. Long uranium and high-quality farmland.
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Re: Outlook for 2010

Postby Tony » Sat Jul 24, 2010 9:22 am

Market volume on XAO is distinctly lower than in recent times, plenty of people sitting on the fence, ready to act. Not as low as the christmas 2009 volume dip where the recent benchmark in the XAO was set. Crystal ball tells me that the short term trend could go any direction as we are at 2005 levels today, excepting volume where it has been surpassed. Does the behaviour of fence sitters include spending sprees? Of course it is time to get out the harvester and motivate the flies that sit in the way.
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Re: Outlook for 2010

Postby benthonic » Wed Aug 25, 2010 12:31 pm

Battellino Speech - recent speech entitled “Twenty Years of Global Growth” dated 20 August 2010, by the RBA Deputy Governor

..In a wide-ranging speech the deputy Governor highlighted the fact that the Australian savings rate is now elevated, relative to recent experience, especially the period between 1999-2009. Such an elevation reflects a more cautious approach to spending by consumers. This tone reflects recent financial market volatility, and caution about the future outlook. An increase in the savings rate will tend to dampen spending, from a structural point of view, and may make the transition, from public stimulation to private sector demand, more problematic. As such the elevation of the savings rate presents one of the constraints on the RBA; a factor that is preventing a tightening bias at this time....

.. Battellino was fairly upbeat on global growth, where he argued that the global outlook was robust, despite recent concerns about global growth. Also, the anticipated continuation of strong regional growth, with historically elevated prices, was argued to lead to favourable terms of trade, thus supporting household incomes. Investment in mining projects was expected to underpin economic growth, and ex-mining investment was also expected to rise, despite the capacity constraints evident in the economy. This growth was expected to offset a withdrawal of government stimulation in the near term, as the private sector effectively takes over from government stimulation....

...(Elsewhere) France has joined the US and the UK, in terms of recent downward guidance on growth. Some major investment banks have also revised growth expectations down significantly. These revisions are beginning to complete the picture forecast in May, (the growth implications of the Greek crisis).

All these developments now set the scene for the Bernanke Speech on Friday at the Jackson Hole Conference. In many ways, equity investors are living on the hope that the fall in US growth is temporary and contained. Both of these hopes appear wishful thinking. It may be the speech at Jackson Hole that leads the equity market to more adequately test these unsustainable expectations.

Revisions down in growth forecasts have been coming thick and fast, and the Jackson Hole Conference seems to be shaping up as a tipping point for global markets. Equity markets have been unwilling to build in the pessimism that is evident in the bond markets, and one would expect that this situation cannot persist; a correction in equities is now inevitable. If Bernanke further revises the outlook for US growth, which appears a reasonable assumption at this time, then this may provide one of the things that contributes to an adjustment in equity pricing; a correction that more adequately acknowledges bond market pricing.

In Australia, the Battellino speech highlighted the concerns of the RBA, and the constraints that are preventing the RBA from initiating a tightening bias at this time. Moreover, concerns about the funding demands from the Greens and independents may contribute to some small risk premium in Australian bonds, with a possibly expanded budget financing task. While increased political diversity will come with a price tag, the bond market should benefit from increased liquidity in the medium term.

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Re: Outlook for 2010

Postby benthonic » Thu Oct 28, 2010 9:36 am

http://www.businessspectator.com.au/bs. ... ph&src=rot
There’s another important day next week and it rather coincidentally occurs on Wednesday – the day after Election Day .. (it) is the day when the Fed will announce a renewed commitment to Quantitative Easing – a polite form disguise for “writing cheques.” The market will be interested in the amount (perhaps as much as an initial $500 billion) as well as the targeted objective (perhaps a muddied version of “2 per cent inflation or bust!”). The announcement, however, has been well telegraphed and the market’s reaction is likely to be subdued. More important will be the answer to the long-term question of “will it work?” and perhaps its associated twin “will it create a bond market bubble?”

Whatever the conclusion, not only investors, but the American people should recognize that Wednesday, .... represents a critical inflection point in determining our future prosperity. Of course we’ve tried it before, most recently in the aftermath of the Lehman crisis, during which the Fed wrote $1.5 trillion or so in “cheques” to purchase Agency mortgages and a smattering of Treasuries. It might seem a tad dramatic then, to label QEII as “critical,” sort of like those airport hucksters, I suppose, that sold whale blubber for a living. But two years ago, there was the implicit assumption that the US and its associated G-7 economies needed just an espresso or perhaps an Adderall or two to get back to normal. Normal just hasn’t happened yet, and economic historians such as Kenneth Rogoff and Carmen Reinhart have since alerted us that countries in the throes of delevering can take many, not several, years to return to a steady state.

The Fed’s second round of QE, therefore, more closely resembles an attempted hypodermic straight to the economy’s heart than its mood elevator counterpart of 2009. If QEII cannot reflate capital markets, if it can’t produce 2 per cent inflation and an assumed reduction of unemployment rates back towards historical levels, then it will be a long, painful slog back to prosperity. Perhaps, as a vocal contingent suggests, our paper-based foundation of wealth deserves to be buried, making a fresh start from admittedly lower levels. The Fed, on Wednesday, however, will decide that it is better to keep the patient on life support with an adrenaline injection and a following morphine drip than to risk its demise and ultimate rebirth in another form.

We at PIMCO join with Ben Bernanke in this diagnosis, but we will tell you, as perhaps he cannot, that the outcome is by no means certain. We are, as even some Fed Governors now publically admit, in a “liquidity trap,” where interest rates or trillions in QEII asset purchases may not stimulate borrowing or lending because consumer demand is just not there. Escaping from a liquidity trap may be impossible, much like light trapped in a black hole. Just ask Japan. Ben Bernanke, however, will try – it is, to be honest, all he can do. He can’t raise or lower taxes, he can’t direct a fiscal thrust of infrastructure spending, he can’t change our educational system, he can’t force the Chinese to revalue their currency – it is all he can do, and as he proceeds, the dual questions of “will it work” and “will it create a bond market bubble” will be answered. We at PIMCO are not sure.

Still, while next Wednesday’s announcement will carry our qualified endorsement, I must admit it may be similar to a Turkey looking forward to a Thanksgiving Day celebration. Bondholders, while immediate beneficiaries, will likely eventually be delivered on a platter to more fortunate celebrants, be they financial asset classes more adaptable to inflation such as stocks or commodities, or perhaps the average American on Main Street who might benefit from a hoped-for rise in job growth or simply a boost in nominal wages, however deceptive the illusion. Cheque writing in the trillions is not a bondholder’s friend; it is in fact inflationary, and, if truth be told, somewhat of a Ponzi scheme. Public debt, actually, has always had a Ponzi-like characteristic. Granted, the US has, at times, paid down its national debt, but there was always the assumption that as long as creditors could be found to roll over existing loans – and buy new ones – the game could keep going forever. Sovereign countries have always implicitly acknowledged that the existing debt would never be paid off because they would “grow” their way out of the apparent predicament, allowing future’s prosperity to continually pay for today’s finance. .....

...A similar fate, by the way, awaits stockholders, although their ability to adjust somewhat to rising inflation prevents such a startling conclusion. Last month I outlined the case for low asset returns in almost all categories, in part due to the end of the 30-year bull market in interest rates, a trend accentuated by QEII in which 2- and 3-year Treasury yields approach the 0 per cent bound. Anyone for 1.10 per cent 5-year Treasuries? Well, the Fed will buy them, but then what, and how will PIMCO tell ..investor(s) ....that the Thanksgiving Day axe has finally arrived?
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Re: Outlook for 2011

Postby benthonic » Mon Nov 01, 2010 11:11 am

Equities Bullish Factors
• Developed country policymakers remain highly alert to not removing stimulus too soon.
• At about 12.5 times forward earnings based on Thomson Reuters consensus forecasts, US and global equities are attractively valued and are discounting zero profit growth.
• In the second quarter, US capital spending showed its first ma-jor improvement since the Great Recession. However, it will be a while before capacity expands enough to erode profit margins.
• Neither inflation nor deflation is a significant near-term risk.
• Despite concerns about a tightfisted US consumer, back-to-school and same-store-retail sales have been solid if uninspiring.
• Fed tightening appears to be a long way off. US and global eq-uity returns have averaged at least mid-teens in the year before the first tightening and 8% and 12%, respectively, in the year after; concurrently, US Treasury returns are poor.
• Historically, periods of negative trailing 10-year US equity re-turns have been followed by 9%-to-10% per annum returns over the next five- and 10-year periods. While these returns are close to the historical "average," what is not average is the absence of negative returns during these subsequent periods.

Equities Bearish Factors
• Long term, unemployment is likely to stay higher than desired. A long economic recovery will be needed to bring the US unemploy-ment rate down to the 50-year average of 5.9%.
• The IMF is concerned that policy actions in Asia and Latin America to limit the rise of their currencies could provoke protectionism. If the G-20 is successful in framing foreign exchange coordination as part of an effort to balance world growth to be less reliant on the US con-sumer, this issue could move from the forefront to the backdrop.
• Financials have lagged during the most recent equity up move.
• Sentiment has gotten fairly bullish in the last several months.
• Sovereign debt burdens are too high in several developed countries. Hard political choices need to be made or currency values are at risk.
• If the secular bull market in Treasury bonds that started in the early 1980s ended in 2008, as we believe, higher price/earnings ratios are unlikely to contribute to the total return of equities in this bull cycle.
• Two countries remain out of synch with globalization and the end of the Cold War: Venezuela and North Korea. Neither appears likely to reverse course soon.

- sourced from the ether
- must be done by an economist (but, on the other hand ...)
This week is a pivotal time, with a lot of news: Aust interest rates (probably stay at 4.5%), US to have elections and announce QE, and a 'raft' of other announcements
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Re: Outlook for 2010

Postby Disco Stu » Mon Nov 01, 2010 12:07 pm

A lot of news this week Benthonic. I took a lot of risk off the table this morning - lightened up considerably. Have had a very good September and October, and didn't want to leave it all hanging out there. If the news is good, it is easy enough to put some weight back into the positions.
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Re: Outlook for 2010

Postby muhaha » Wed Nov 03, 2010 9:06 am

Should be interesting tonight, FED hinting at the size of the stimulus. The market has already priced in a decent 500 billion plus , so if it is lower then we can expect a sell off. Either way oil is moving up, gold is moving up , cash is no longer king
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