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Pacific Brands - PBG

Postby South » Thu Feb 19, 2004 8:11 pm

http://www.PacificBrands.com.au

All daily brands like sleepmaker(where you sleep everynight),slazenger(your shoes), Bonds(Is this your undy now?), dunlop sport.
It says it offering on P/E ratio 8 more, under 9
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Postby william » Wed Mar 10, 2004 7:19 am

Is anyone here a subscriber to the inteligent investor ?. i would derely love to hear their review on it ?.

does anyone have any opinions on this one ?
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Postby brenton » Wed Mar 10, 2004 2:49 pm

Huntleys says to subscribe
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Postby new2waix » Thu Mar 11, 2004 4:05 pm

Just downloaded the prospectus (and should have a hardcopy arriving in the mail).

Has anyone had a play around with the numbers yet?

Intangible assets would play a big part - how do you value a brand name? :wink:

Is this float and business comparable to BBG? Hope so!
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Postby new2waix » Mon Mar 15, 2004 4:45 pm

How do you calculate the NTA (or book value) amount?

Is it simply Net Assets minus Intangibles?

Total Assets = 1,884.60
Intangibles = 1181.8

NTA = ?
NTA per share = ?

Thanks :cry:
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Postby Pedro-Egoli » Mon Mar 15, 2004 5:09 pm

G'day New2waix,

Book Value is Total Assets less Total Liabilities, or in the case ofthis company its Pro Fporma balance sheet at 31/12/03 shows $1183.4m

To obtain NTA deduct from this the Intgibles of $1181.8m whcih leaves enough for a round of drinks in the NTA stakes.

There are to be 503m shares issued so to get the per share value divide by this number.
ie Book value is $2.35
NTA is very small
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Postby new2waix » Mon Mar 15, 2004 5:58 pm

Thanks Pedro for the prompt reply.

Book Value
Total Assets 1,884.60
Less Total Liabilities (701.2)
Equals Book Value 1,183.40
Number of shares 503 million
Book Value per share $2.35


To clairify NTA:

Net Tangible Assets
Book Value 1,183.40
Less Intangibles (1181.80)
Equals 1.60
Number of shares 503 million
NTA per share $0.0032

Are the above numbers right?

Which numbers would we use to calculate the CVGI for PBH?

Thanks again!

:wink:
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Postby Pedro-Egoli » Mon Mar 15, 2004 8:01 pm

G'day new2waix,
Those are the figures I got too.

I always use Book value regardless, because of the association I see with ROE which I use as a guide to a share I want to own.

As a suggestion do your calculations using both and see the difference, then assess what it is telling you.
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Postby new2waix » Mon Mar 15, 2004 8:53 pm

Just a quick comparison.

PBH vs. BBG

Book Value
Total Assets 1,884.60 vs. 832.321
Less Total Liabilities (701.2) vs. -281.989
Equals Book Value 1,183.40 vs. 550.332
Number of shares 503 million vs. 202.634874
Book Value per share $2.35 vs. 2.715879992


Net Tangible Assets
Book Value 1,183.40 vs. 550.332
Less Intangibles (1181.80) vs. -517.024
Equals 1.60 vs. 33.308
Number of shares 503 million vs. 202.634874
NTA per share $0.0032 vs. 0.16437447

Have to double check numbers, but interesting so far...


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Postby tones » Mon Mar 15, 2004 9:17 pm

For your info Hard Copy arrived to today for those that registered.
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Postby jonasson » Sun Mar 21, 2004 5:30 pm

I'm on board this one, have a look at what the younger brigade are wearing now
Forget billabong etc Bonds are the go
Some very good marketing & lots of it
Saw the CEO on the Sun business show last week & I thought he was switched on for an old codger
Seems a good long termer, paying a good div & I haven't got many of those
Question is it's price to open, won't be a big stag probably, but my guess is a premium
I've got a solid broker allocation, would be interested to learn how punters who apply to the prospectus go
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Re: PacificBrands

Postby muhaha » Mon Mar 09, 2009 9:40 pm

well will this survive, i think so , the brands are too strong. Debt is the issue though, thinking of tipping my toes into it. Anyone else willing to comment ?
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