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Postby biogas » Sun Jul 13, 2008 9:08 am

With the downfall in properties in the US I cant help but think it is probably a good time to evaluate purchasing some property over there. Does anyone know of any restrictions placed on non-US citizens to purchase investment property? What about tax implications? Does anyone here have any investment property and any good links to share?

Thanks in advance.
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Re: US Property

Postby Judd » Sun Jul 13, 2008 4:37 pm

biogas, before you even begin to think about this, you may wish to consider the matters raised in this article.

http://www.jenman.com.au/news_item.php?id=397
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Re: US Property

Postby biogas » Sun Jul 13, 2008 5:03 pm

Thanks mate for the link. Sad story and it goes to show there are deviants in every place preying on those less informed and conning people out of their dosh. It looks like its even easier when they dont live in the same country.

Im possibly looking to move to the states soon for work purposes for a couple of years anyway, so should be able to get a good feel for what certian places are worth. I guess one thing that shocked me from that article is that the population of Buffalo has halved, and has 14,000 vacant homes. Need to do some thorough due diligence on the growth prospects of any place before investing. I imagine that websites like http://www.realestate.com and the American equivalent of Reiwa should give a good guide to prices and market trends.

Im more interested in websites or information on restrictions for non-citizens in terms of ownership, tax benefits, etc.
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Re: US Property

Postby Judd » Sun Jul 13, 2008 5:13 pm

Apologies, biogas. I also meant to place this link in my previous post.

http://www.realtor.com/

Have no idea about tax aspects, except that apparently US residents can deduct mortgage interest payments from their income and, I think, CGT does apply to some extent on the home. Complicated issues which need very thorough research.
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Re: US Property

Postby benthonic » Sat Aug 23, 2008 5:57 pm

holy roller coaster!!

and Judd, I just read the jenman post, and followed it to the Buffalo Mayor's official flipping warning. It would be a long time before any authorities in Australia - "fair trading" or "consumer rights" (soi disant) or whomever - would ever issue such an unequivical statement. How sad and deluded we are.
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Re: US Property

Postby benthonic » Sat Nov 29, 2008 6:38 pm

Case - Schiller Nov 25

from http://www.bespokeinvest.com


The S&P/Case-Shiller median home price numbers for September were released Nov 25, and attachment highlights some key stats from the report. In the chart,the percentage decline from each city's respective peak. As shown, Phoenix has seen the biggest declines with a fall of 39%. Las Vegas is not far behind Phoenix at -38%, and Miami, San Diego, San Francisco, and Los Angeles have all seen declines of 30% or more as well. Dallas and Charlotte have held up by far the best with declines of just 4% from their peaks.

All cities saw month-over-month and year-over-year declines in September. San Francisco and Phoenix saw the biggest month-over-month declines while Cleveland held up the best. The Composite 10-city and 20-city indices saw month-over-month declines of 1.84% and 1.77% respectively. Things didn't get any better in September, and they've more than likely gotten worse in October and November.

(Near 40% falls are big numbers; it has happened in last few years ! --- and are we waiting for this to come to a city near you? Of course there will be micro-themes within urban agglomerations)

Hang on tight
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Re: US Property - still falling

Postby benthonic » Wed Dec 31, 2008 4:15 pm

US S&P Case-Shiller House Pricse Index for October falls 2.2% on prior month


House prices for October across 20 metropolitans in the US fell 2.2% on the prior month (end Oct from Sept) and are down 18.0% on October 2007. The index fell for the 27th consecutive month, and it appears that the rate of decline has increased since June. Heavy pcp falls were recorded across most regions, although some metros in scattered locations (New York, Boston, Denver, Charlotte, Cleveland, Dallas ) recorded single digit declines. The S&P/Case-Shiller index is based on ‘pairs’ of sales of the same property.

Broker Comment

While the fall in house prices improves affordability, strong declines also deter prospective buyers. As such, the easing of the decline in house prices is a small step towards an affordability-driven improvement in sales in the long term, although buyer sentiment is likely to put downward pressure on sales in the short term. This scenario is consistent with our forecast ~30% fall in starts for YEJ-09, followed by an FY10 recovery.
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Re: US Property

Postby Judd » Thu Jan 01, 2009 5:43 am

Mr B. that is not a happy report you have posted. Seems to me that housing reflects confidence, in the USA in particular, and until that turns around then that country's economy will remain in the doldrums.

For property vultures and those who like to rubber neck at accidents, this web-site may fill your needs:

http://www.realtytrac.com/

Web surfing of the morbid kind.

Happy New year everybody.
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Re: US Property

Postby Penelope » Wed Feb 04, 2009 2:24 am

It all depends on where you go as to what you will find with property. In my area, on the east coast, home prices have been over-inflated for close to ten years. Yes, it stinks if you bought the home as an investment, I suppose but for those of us who live there and plan on continuing to live there, it might help our property taxes and insurance rates come back down to reasonable levels. There are some areas in the US that are not seeing a devaluation in properties but you will have to do some research.
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Re: US Property

Postby Judd » Sat Feb 21, 2009 6:09 am

And as a number of posters have predicted in the discussion on sub-prime loans, the bigger end of town is now being hit.. You really wish that it would all end so that we can get back to normality - or is this normality? Frightening thought.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid= ... refer=home

Jumbo Loan Defaults Rise at Fast Pace as Rich Suffer (Update3)

By Bob Ivry

Feb. 20 (Bloomberg) -- Luxury homeowners are falling behind on mortgage payments at the fastest pace in more than 15 years, a sign the U.S. financial crisis that began with the poorest Americans has reached the wealthiest.

About 2.57 percent of prime borrowers who took out jumbo loans last year were at least 60 days delinquent, according to LPS Applied Analytics, a mortgage data service in Jacksonville, Florida. They got to that level within 10 months, almost twice as quickly as 2007 borrowers and the fastest rate since at least 1992, when LPS Applied Analytics began tracking the market.

The jump in late payments on jumbo loans, while still lower than the 20 percent delinquencies in subprime mortgages, signals that the borrowers with the most money and the best credit are hurting as the U.S. recession deepens in its second year. It also means these loans will be even more difficult to obtain and more expensive to pay off.

“The biggest influence in rising delinquencies is related squarely to the economy rather than poor underwriting,” said Keith Gumbinger, vice president of HSH Associates, a Pompton Plains, New Jersey-based mortgage research firm. “We are apparently all suffering to some degree. It’s certainly more severe for some but still, it’s pretty much widespread.”

U.S. joblessness reached a 25-year high in January while the unemployment rate in the financial industry rose to 6 percent from 3 percent a year ago. It jumped to 10.4 percent from 6.4 percent in the category of professional and business services, according to the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics in Washington.

Jumbo Refinance

Raymond Young bought his lakeside home in Miami four years ago for $2 million cash and in 2006 took out a $1.4 million jumbo mortgage to pay for a real estate venture in Texas. Now, with home prices in his area down 40 percent from their 2006 peak, according to the S&P/Case-Shiller Home Price Index, Young needs to refinance because the Texas investment isn’t paying off and his income has dried up. He can’t find a bank to help.

“They’re telling me the house is only worth $1.3 million,” said Young, 46. “I’m upside down. I’m stuck. I’m in bailout mode but they’re bailing out banks and they’re not bailing out homeowners.”

President Barack Obama’s Homeowner Affordability and Stability Plan, announced this week, has no provision to help jumbo mortgage borrowers.

“People must have been surprised to lose their jobs or they didn’t realize the bottom hadn’t been reached yet on home prices,” said John Silvia, chief economist at Wachovia Corp. in Charlotte, North Carolina. “A lot of people weren’t paying attention.”

No Government Help

About 1.92 percent of homeowners with 2008 mortgages backed by Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac fell at least 60 days behind, LPS Applied Analytics said. Jumbo loans are bigger than what the two government-controlled agencies buy or guarantee, and Obama’s plan focuses on shoring up mortgages eligible to be bought by Fannie and Freddie.

Currently the Fannie-Freddie cap is set at $417,000 in most places and up to $729,750 in areas with higher home prices. The average credit score for 2008 jumbo loans was 762, LPS Applied Analytics said. Such scores are used to assess risk.

Jumbo lending slowed in the fourth quarter to $11 billion, or 4 percent of the mortgage market, the lowest quarterly amount since Inside Mortgage Finance started tracking that data in 1990. In 2007, jumbo loans made up 14 percent of total U.S. mortgage originations, according to the Bethesda, Maryland-based publication.

Financing Jumbo Loans

The top five U.S. jumbo lenders -- Chase Home Finance LLC, Bank of America Corp., Washington Mutual Inc., Wells Fargo & Co. and Citigroup Inc. -- originated a combined $55.3 billion in jumbos in 2008. They lent just $4.3 billion of that during the last three months of the year, according to Inside Mortgage Finance.

Banks don’t want to make jumbo loans because holding them on their books means they have to keep sufficient money in reserve in case borrowers quit paying, Inside Mortgage Finance Publications Chief Executive Officer Guy Cecala said.

The national average for a 30-year fixed-rate jumbo mortgage was 6.57 percent this week compared with 5.34 percent for a conforming loan, according to White Plains, New York-based financial data provider BanxQuote.

The difference in interest rates between jumbo loans and prime conforming mortgages, or mortgages eligible for sale to Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and available to borrowers with top credit scores, had been about 20 basis points “for several decades,” according to BanxQuote CEO Norbert Mehl.

181 Basis Points

In August 2007, that difference jumped to as much as 200 basis points and has stayed between 100 and 200 basis points, Mehl said. A basis point is equal to 0.01 percentage point.

The difference between the jumbo interest rate and the prime conforming rate was 181 basis points on Feb. 18, according to Bloomberg data.

“The only jumbo mortgages being written right now have strict qualification criteria both in the credit rating of the borrower and the down payment requirements and they are nearly impossible to qualify for,” Mehl said. “Some lenders quote a jumbo rate but they don’t make the loans.”

Steve Habetz, president of Threshold Mortgage Co. in Westport, Connecticut, said he relied on Hudson City Bancorp Inc. in Paramus, New Jersey, and closely held, Manhasset, New York- based Apple Bank for Savings for jumbo loans.

Capacity is down because lenders everywhere are understaffed and “drowning in loan applications,” Habetz said.

Habetz said he had a customer with a 740 credit score who had a down payment of $500,000 on a $1 million home in Easton, Connecticut. The borrower had to wait two weeks for approval when in December he would have gotten the mortgage overnight.

“Mortgage lending right now is like wading miles and miles in waist-deep mud,” Habetz said. “It’s so difficult. Jumbo borrowers will be tortured and it’s nothing they should take personally because everybody is getting tortured.”

To contact the reporter on this story: Bob Ivry in New York at bivry@bloomberg.net.
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Re: US Property

Postby benthonic » Sat Apr 04, 2009 1:44 pm

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid= ... refer=home

Fixed mortgage rates in the U.S. fell to a record low for the second consecutive week, signaling that Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke’s effort to spur the housing market is gaining traction.

The 30-year rate dropped to 4.78 percent from 4.85 percent a week earlier, the lowest since records began in 1971, Freddie Mac said today in a statement.

Rates are falling to historic lows as the Federal Reserve ramps up purchases of mortgage-backed bonds to support home lending. Mortgage applications in the U.S. rose for a fourth consecutive week as a decline in borrowing costs prompted more refinancing.

“Lower rates will help increase demand for homes,” said Celia Chen, senior director at Moody’s Economy.com in West Chester, Pennsylvania. “We need to see stronger demand for homes to help end the housing correction.”

The Fed’s efforts to expand lending “should make new consumer, business, and mortgage loans more available, at lower cost,” Bernanke said in a March 20 speech to a Phoenix banking conference.

Government purchases of mortgage securities are helping to reduce the interest rates that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac buyers require on home loans “thereby lowering the rate at which lenders, including community banks, can fund new mortgages,” Bernanke said.

The 30-year fixed mortgage rate may bottom at 4.4 percent, said Scott Anderson, senior economist at Wells Fargo & Co. in Minneapolis.

“We’re not going to see mortgage rates a lot lower than they are today,” Anderson said. “It’s going to be a lot harder to push rates lower from here.” ........

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So that's about as good as it is going to get. Another party trick coming to the end of its usefulness.

One view, if they all rush out and refinance mortgages for the long term and rates rise as they surely must, is that we won't have too much 'refinancing to support consumption'. Debt may actually be used for a single outcome, rather than exploited as a rolling line of credit. Is this too mcuh to wish for?
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Re: US Property

Postby benthonic » Tue Jun 16, 2009 4:51 pm

Fitch (the ratings agency), in a downgrade of yet another 543 mortgage-backed securities of 2005-07 vintage, gives the following side notes: "The home price declines to date have resulted in negative equity for approximately 50% of the remaining performing borrowers in the 2005-2007 vintages. In addition to continued home price deterioration, unemployment has risen significantly since the third quarter of last year, particularly in California where the unemployment rate has jumped from 7.8% to 11%... The projected losses also reflect an assumption that from the first quarter of 2009, home prices will fall an additional 12.5% nationally and 36% in California, with home prices not exhibiting stability until the second half of 2010. To date, national home prices have declined by 27%. Fitch Rating's revised peak-to-trough expectation is for prices to decline by 36% from the peak price achieved in mid-2006. The additional 9% decline represents a 12.5% decline from today's levels."

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